Monero Dev Meeting Note Highlights – 2019-05-19
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xmrmatterbridge<rehrar> Meeting!!
ferretinjapanrehrar, o/
moneromooorehrar: btw, did you get any new info from purism ?
jwinterm\o
xmrmatterbridge<rehrar> Yes. Will update. Did update in -community
hyctime
xmrmatterbridge<rehrar> Hello guys. Let's start the meeting.
xmrmatterbridge<rehrar> 1. Greetings
ErCiccioneHi
rbrunnerHi
vtnerdhi
hychi
jwintermso long rbrunner
rbrunnerConnection problems … back again
rehrarAlright
rehrar2. What's been done since previous meeting?
rehrarright, well, let's jump to that then. It's what we're all anxious to hear about anyways.
hycOK, so we have 4 SoWs from audit teams, we had an unexpected bonus from Arweave.org agreeing to pay for the TrailofBits audit
hycthe vote on auditor selection is closed and tallied, Kudelski is the clear first choice
hycQuarkslab and X41 nearly tied for 2nd choice but QL slightly ahead
hycand majority voted for 3 choices, so it seems we are going to submit all 3 in CCS
hycrandomX integration in monerod is mostly there, we have some bug with reorg handling at the moment
rehrarWhat's the cost of all three, hyc?
hycbut otherwise the patch has all the functionality we seem to need, including support for mining RPCs so pools and solo miners can work
tevador~$120K
hycrehrar, let me get back to you in a few minutes. move on to next topic till I tally
hyc^^ there you go
rehrarok
rehrarStandard CCS concerns, since Defcon will be putting up a couple of CCS stuff too here not so far from now
rehrarI'll contact Outreach workgroup to try to do something to get everyone on board and donating, but sure.
rehrarAnything else on that hyc?
hycI would structure it in priority order, and if we don't get full funds, we just omit the last choice
hycI think that covers it for me, yeah
rehrarawesome, thanks for all of your guys' work on this. It's exciting stuff.
rehrarAnyone else have anything that's been done past couple of weeks?
moneromooomonerod can now sync on big endian ^_^
hycwoohoo!
rbrunnerWow. Is that still a thing?
hycIBM POWER, Fujitsu / oracle SPARC
hycbig datacenter boxes, sure
rbrunnerNice to have anyway!
rehrarthe improvements that really matter
rehrar:P anyways, I can also give an update regarding Purism if desired.
rehrarI had a meeting with Todd, the CEO a few days ago.
rbrunnerPlease do
rehrarThey're still just as excited about Monero. They aren't really interested in other cryptocurrencies, because only Monero has the ideology of privacy by default, similar to them. They're still very excited about integrating Moenro into Librem Pay
rehrarso one can theoretically pay using Monero anywhere at any merchant, and merchant settles in fiat.
rehrarstill want to ship Monero by default on all of their systems, mobile and desktop.
rehrarThey don't have any available dev kits for the Librem5 phone for the devs to mess around with, but they are going to get me emulators for their PureOS stuffs.
rehrarAnd we can start playing with the GUI and stuff on there and make it adaptive, if possible, and the like
rehrarThey're willing to do a matching thing on a CCS proposal that we do
rehrarAs in, if we raise x amount of money, they'll put in x as well (up to some upper limit for them) for a dev to work on this stuff.
jtgrassieBy "ship Monero by default", do they mean ship with full-node + wallet?
rehrardsc_ has expressed a willingness, but I'm not going to put words in his mouth, so you can talk to him for more info
rehrarjtgrassie: that's for us to figure otu
rehrar*out
rehrarthe Librem5 phone is indeed a phone, but you will be able to connect it to a monitor and use it as a desktop also, as the OS itself will be adaptive.
rbrunnerNice that things seem to get moving, they seem excited already for quite some time …
rehrarSo we can choose how we want the GUI to be put on there.
vtnerdyeah the light-wallet-server setup is probably more appropriate, but people have synced the chain to their phone
rehrarObviously, since there is the idea that you can do whatever you want on their phone with no abritrary restrictions, the idea that someone can theoretically run a full node on their phone should not be overlooked
hycare they using a micro-HDMI port, or just something like chromecast to use external monitor? just curious, not important
jtgrassieHaving purism simply accept Monero as a payment method first would be nice
vtnerdthe issue might be storage on that sucker, I dont see sd card listed … ?
moneromoooThey do.
moneromoooOr did, at least.
rehrarjtgrassie: they do accept Monero
jwintermhyc: it looks like it will go usb-c to hdmi or display port (tbd)
jtgrassiemoneromooo: not an option at checkout
jtgrassierehrar: ^
hycjwinterm thanks
rehrarthere is "Cryptocurrencies" option
jtgrassieOh, my bad, Globee
rehrarand it's done via Globee
rehraranyways, that's it from me. I'll ping them in this upcoming week about the emulators
rehrarand discussion may pop up from time to time in -gui
rehrarand maybe here
rehrarwe'll be in contact with you mooo, if things need to happen on the core side
rehrarbut PureOS is Debian-based, so I don't think anything crazy will need to happen
hycrehrar tell them they need a -Pro model with landscape aspect slideout qwerty keyboard
rehrarI'll see what I can do to pass that along. :P
jtgrassieI guess shipping the wallet by default would be nice. Easy to do.
rbrunnerHmmm, yes, like Psion 5mx
rehrarYes, that's the plan. It's one of the default softwares on their phone
endogenichi all
rehrar*it'd be
rehraranyone else have something to report or talk about?
ErCiccioneI have a quick update. The Monero Ecosystem has a new member: go-monero-rpc-client. The repo is not transferred yet, but it has been approved: https://github.com/monero-ecosystem/meta/issues/35. We didn't have anything in golang before, so i think it's cool to have it.
rehrarThat's pretty neat.
hycI wonder if the RandomX repo should be in Ecosystem
rehrarI would think it'd be better suited for Monero Project?
ErCiccionehyc: it would be more than welcome
hycI guess it's up to tevador to decide where he wants it to live
rehrarEcosystem is typically Monero-only things, and while RandomX is be built by Monero for Monero
rehrarit should be agnostic in theory, no?
rehraras in, other coins can adopt it?
hycand we already have a 3rd party Arweave planning to use it
rehrarSimilar to OpenAlias in that respect.
rehrarSo my suggestion to tevador would be in the Monero Project set of repos
hycok
ErCiccioneWell, was created by monero developers for Monero. I think hosting it on a Monero "place" is apropriate
rehraron the "new" repo.getmonero.org
rehrarAlright, any code discussion to happen as a 3 or 4 or whatever?
rehrarIf not, we can adjourn and go to markets to speculate on the rise of the market.
rehrarunless someone had other meeting items?
hycanything more to say on next point release?
rehrarooooh yes plz
hycmoneromooo ?
moneromoooWaiting on pony to build binaries AFAIK.
ErCiccionecore is branched and GUI is waiting for core. Translations for GUI are being submitted, but we are having a lot less contributors than the last release
sarangWhen is freeze for the Carbon Crab update?
rehrar*Crap
sarangMRL is feverishly working on CLSAG
endogenican MRL workshop is occurring this week. any requests as to topics of discussion
moneromoooLightning/Bolt building blocks ^_^
sarangFo sho
rehrarso….
rehrarwe gucci?
sarangWhen is the freeze?
sarangFor Carbon
moneromoooWhenever we're done :)
sarangLol
rehrarI think it's quite dependent on the audits
rehrarno?
rehrarif we're planning on getting them in, that is
sarangFor randomx?
hycfreeze for October hardfork you mean?
sarangGoal is to finish by July IIRC
sarangYa
sarangIf we choose to get CLSAG audited that adds time
rehrarMonero is technically made of money
rehrarso I don't see a huge problem
endogenicit's people
rehrarso, question answered then?
rehrarregardless of how unsatisfactory
sarangNot really, but ok
endogenichow about, when will we know when the freeze will be?
rbrunnerIn the two years I am here now I never saw a real freeze happen :)
rbrunnerOnly attempts …
rbrunnerNot that there was a real problem with this
ErCiccioneso true.. i've been begging for one for a long time
hycone could say the code is currently in a frozen state, since nothing can be merged until fluffy resurfaces
rbrunnerlol
sarangWhat a time to be alive
ErCiccionehyc: luigi got the power now. HE is the leader of Monero afterall
ErCiccioneat least according to wikipedia
hycoho
rehraralright, I think we're pretty much done then. :)
hycsounds like it
hycadios
rehrarTwo weeks from now? The second?
rehrarcya guys
Sources and notes
- Meeting log: Overview and Logs for the Dev Meeting Held on 2019-05-19, getmonero.org. The official post carried the raw log and pointed readers to Hello Monero for the overview.
- Original Hello Monero URL slug recovered from the Wayback Machine index; the original page content did not survive, so this reconstruction carries the log as archived by the Monero Project.